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We are a new group dedicated to the dislike of Tifa Lockhart, a character from Final Fantasy VII. Whether your dislike of Tifa stems from her jealousy of Aerith, her treatment of Cloud, her personality, or any other reason--please feel free to join and contribute!


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:bulletred: We do not condone starting arguments with Tifa or Cloti fans. Keep any Tifa bashing confined to this group. And keep it civil!



A few reasons why we dislike Tifa:
A Memory Or Us?
This Scene

Why can't Tifa allow Cloud to grieve for Zack and Aerith? It's selfish and inconsiderate to give him an ultimatum.

Shallow Promise

This Promise:
is NOT romantic. Tifa only wants Cloud to come save her AFTER he's famous. And whenever he attempts to help her, she immediately blames him for being late. Aerith died and she doesn't blame Cloud at all.

The impossible standards: Look how hurt Cloud is by her words :cries:


The Jealousy: Tifa did not pay any attention to Cloud until a promising love rival, Aerith, showed an interest in him. It was only when Cloud did not strive for Tifa's affection or interest and showed love for another that she decided she loved him.


The Truth:

Tifa knows the truth about what happened in Nibelheim, but doesn't speak up and tell Cloud the truth about his confused memories.

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Hey there everyone.My co-founder :iconkaviatorplz: is too busy to do anything these days.I really need help running this group so please help!!!!

P.S All those who submitted stuff to the group please,please re-submit.I needed 2 votes for the art to be submitted,i'll just go change the settings so it can be one vote and i'll accept everything

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Lao-Paperman Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2016   Interface Designer
Thank you for accepting me :la: guess what? I don't like Tifa :D never had and never will!
When I read you reasons for dislike Tifa ... oh my ...I felt like being home, finally I think I've fainted.
These are the same points why I don't like her too :D only remember the day Tifa run as child to Mount Nibel. Cloud was so sweet and wanted to protect her. At least the stupid girl was falling down the bridge and everyone was telling it had been Clouds fault. :shifty: 
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kyoandyuya Featured By Owner Edited Jan 31, 2016
Except that canon actually shows that Aerith is the clingy jealous girl and not Tifa. And your reasoning about her jealousy is unfounded by the fact that she love Cloud more when he love Aerith even if the one he focused his attention isn't her.

And you believe Aerith is better when she only love Cloud because of his resemblance to Zack? That's hypocrisy. In Tifa's case at least, there's no one else. In Aerith, she sees Zack in Cloud and that's worse.

Tifa and Cloud are not that close as children. It's canon. So can you blame the girl to be indifferent to him?

Would you speak up about the truth of what happened when you are not certain that you are right? Yep. What Tifa did is just a self-defense both to Cloud and herself and not make matters worse.

I like both Aerith and Tifa and I hate people pitting them against each other. They have flaws. You have to understand that and not simply hating her for the sake of it.
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Lillllly Featured By Owner Edited Jun 28, 2016
Let me correct you. I can't let your horrendous comment slide.

I hate it when Aerith and Tifa are bashed too but you're being super shady about Aerith. CRINGE

Aerith WAS NOT CLINGY whatsoever. She flirted and Cloud didn't tell her to stop. Lmfao.

That's Tifa. Tifa ALWAYS chasing after a the guy in: Kingdom Hearts 2 + Dissidia. Surprised Cloud didnt send her a call or a letter!

Aerith tells Cloud he only resembles Zack. FUCKING RESEMBLES SHES NOT CONFUSED. She tells Cloud on their special date together: "Cloud I want to know the real you"
Aerith was already fully aware of Cloud. And she even states she's over Zack.

Aerith leaves Clouds group to fight Sephiroth herself even though she knew she would die. CLINGY YEAH RIGHT.


Tifa: "you owe me a promise! Where's CLOUD? You're late!"
Clingy, wants Cloud to help her raise kids that aernt even hers. Also, she stole Denzel, cause Aerith lead him to Cloud first.
That would mean Denzel is Aerith and Clouds adoptive child. But Tifa, clingy as she is, OBLIGATES Cloud to raise Denzel and Marlene.

Aerith: "come back after you find your light (Cloud)"
Aerith motivates Cloud to do what he wants. Not some dumb childhood promise. Aerith is so understanding of Cloud's personal suffering and even tells him to explore the world. She didn't give him a time limit.

Tifa did. "Come back to me after your famous" lmfao


Cloud thinks about Aerith after she leaves the team. Has a dream about her. In Dissidia Cloud is holding Aeriths White Materia and he's looking for her in her Promise Land Flower Field.

Cloud imagines Aerith is standing behind him in Advent Children. He turns around cause he wanted to SEE her so badly.
CLOUD IS CLINGY TO AERITH.

Cloud and Aerith too innocent together. I love it
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kyoandyuya Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2016
I hate it when Aerith and Tifa are bashed too but you're being super shady about Aerith. CRINGE

Yes, because if you're going to point out one character's faults then be sure your fave is faultless in the same arena. Now THAT is disgusting and double standard. Never mind that those accusations are already debunked.

Yeah, Aerith can be endearing and her flaws easily ignored but I don't appreciate her fans acting like she's the perfect character to grace ff7 and thus possess no faults of her own then proceed to highlight Tifa's actions and use them to support the hate. Face it, they are not perfect and both have problems with the way they basically handled their love interests.

Or do you want a reminder of how she fell in love with Cloud? And how she treated Zack in CC?

So if you can make excuses of her by shrugging it as "she, in the end, learned to love him" then by that same standard, you can't hold Tifa's indifference to Cloud as a kid when he himself acted the anti-social because in the end she had been the reason why he got his old self back.

Aerith WAS NOT CLINGY whatsoever. She flirted and Cloud didn't tell her to stop. Lmfao.

That's Tifa. Tifa ALWAYS chasing after a the guy in: Kingdom Hearts 2 + Dissidia. Surprised Cloud didnt send her a call or a letter!


Oh yes. She's not clingy because she's whiny, controlling, stuck-up, insensitive. There's this: "Oh, thanks for spending hours making me this wagon. Now, here is a list of everything else I need. Oh, and by the way, this wagon sucks, make me a new one."

Poor Zack.

And so it's wrong for her to make him stop moping? It's wrong that she wants him to man up and defeat the baddies that stole the children and the source of the disease when she knew that he's the only one who can save them now? And I'm sorry, Dissidia Tifa was not searching for Cloud. She did not even remember him at all. Yet even then he chose to play the hero. Dumb promise indeed.

Tifa did not mope around waiting for him but continued on her daily activities and her bartending business. CLINGY RIGHT?

Aerith leaves Clouds group to fight Sephiroth herself even though she knew she would die.

Yeah and thus began his moping that lasted for two years and very nearly cause their defeat had Tifa and co. not managed to snap him out of it. Such a great sacrifice without thinking of the emotional effects she would leave to everyone including the man she loves. Shows how much she cares huh?

Tifa: "you owe me a promise! Where's CLOUD? You're late!"
Clingy, wants Cloud to help her raise kids that aernt even hers. Also, she stole Denzel, cause Aerith lead him to Cloud first.
That would mean Denzel is Aerith and Clouds adoptive child. But Tifa, clingy as she is, OBLIGATES Cloud to raise Denzel and Marlene.


Because she DID owe him a promise. It was HIM who wants to be a hero for her, not the other way around. She in turn believed in him when no one in the town did as well as concerned for him everyday until the fateful incident. And how did she stole Denzel? As far as anyone is concerned, Aerith was long dead by the time he came to their abode. Tifa would have stolen Denzel had she imposed herself to him and Cloud when Aerith is present. Tifa did not imposed and in fact was the one who gave her home to both of them and Denzel himself loves Tifa and don't know Aerith personally outside the voice telling them what to do so there is that.

Marlene is not even their kid or adopted. She was Barret's adopted who was passed on to Tifa to take care of which basically shows that she is a nurturing individual with actual actions supporting it and not only because the writers and the characters (including Cloud) called her mother without even proper reasons as to why she is one.

No, she did not obligate Cloud to raising Denzel, she wanted him to man up and solve the problem and stop running away from it. Clingy huh?

Aerith motivates Cloud to do what he wants. Not some dumb childhood promise. Aerith is so understanding of Cloud's personal suffering and even tells him to explore the world. She didn't give him a time limit.

A very good motivation that still did not stop him from moping even when she subtly pushed him into the right direction. Dumb childhood promise? Blame Cloud for even making one and not upholding it. Yes, so understanding and powerless to end it but end up aggravating it even more. Tifa's time limit was their saving grace before the remnants finished their goal. If he had not snapped out of it in time, would they even defeat them, much less Sephiroth himself when they are no longer as strong as they once were and he stronger than ever? Nope, definitely won't.

"Come back to me after your famous" lmfao

"Mope around and come back to me when you snap out of it" lmfao.

Cloud thinks about Aerith after she leaves the team. Has a dream about her. In Dissidia Cloud is holding Aeriths White Materia and he's looking for her in her Promise Land Flower Field.

Cloud imagines Aerith is standing behind him in Advent Children. He turns around cause he wanted to SEE her so badly.
CLOUD IS CLINGY TO AERITH.


Yes because him confessing his love to Tifa in the HW scene doesn't count as him looking at her as his lover. He does not hold his promise to her in high regard to the point where he basically tells all people he encountered in BC about it as well as his motivation to be stronger. And Tifa described as someone who was a woman that was left behind by a man is not an indication that she did not have a relationship with said man in a romantic light. (sarcasm)

And Cloud even constructs a huge portion of his part-Zack persona around her fond remembrance of the promise he made to protect her. It was Tifa who got him to bolster his own opinion that he's not merely a fabrication and that he actually existed. He relies on her every bit as much as she relies on him and she stuck with him until the end unlike getting herself killed and all because she wanted to do everything by herself without thinking out possible consequences.

When faced with the truth behind her role in the story, there’s no denying that without Tifa’s perseverance, Cloud’s real self would have ceased to exist. If Tifa hadn’t treated him with such continual concern, Jenova would have manipulated him far past his breaking point — and as a direct consequence of Cloud’s inability to face off against his newly-reincarnated foe, Sephiroth would have won, and the Planet’s fate would have been left to an unfinished prayer and the desperate hopes of the people.

Cloud and Aerith too innocent together.

A relationship started by a past reminder of a lost love, built by the mix identity in Cloud's part and continued through feelings of guilt and unworthiness over his failure to save her as well as the broken promise made by the former lover to the current one. The girl in question did not even know Cloud for WHO he is and had been for the most part of his life without the identity that she knows coloring him. Innocent together indeed.

Both Cloti and Clerith have issues around them. That's the truth. I don't ship either so I don't care either way. I'm only defending Tifa not argue for Cloti.
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SonamyPrincess Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2015
I am disappointed by the lack of butthurt in the comments :XD: I'm a Tifa fan, but I can see why you guys dislike her. I'm not really that big on FFVII anymore anyway. 
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helterskelter2010 Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2014
Fuck you! Big Brother's spy!
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nichijouevolution Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I love this group! I thought I was the only one who hated CloudXTifa!
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BSGirl4TW Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013
No you're not! Welcome to the club! XD
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nichijouevolution Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
LOL Thank You!
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